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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Bosch » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:13 pm

If your ammonia and nitrite have been stable at zero, I think you are ready now. Are you going to run a fuge or any macro algae? I had diatoms after I turned my lights on, but once I got my fuge going with high light I got them out of the display very quickly. Without my fuge I'm sure I'd have some algae in the display. Display rock is bone white again. Need some good live rock to seed my dry!

I started with 6 green chromis and think they are a pretty good starter fish. Cheap but still kinda cool. Eat like pigs.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby lil-reefer991 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:26 pm

Any updates ?


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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:34 pm

lil-reefer991 wrote:Any updates ?


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Not really

I would like some cheato in my fuge. I have that lit now. Anybody have any I could grab? I am not 100% happy with the lighting. I need to tweek a couple things with the light bar. My middle fixture is heating up the cross bracing of my tank to the point of "not good". Maybe I should throw a led fixture in the middle. Anybody got an extra radion laying around?

My skimmer I determined is awesome.

I am not going to do all the testing for new tank cycle. So basically doing a water change here and there. I keep throwing in some food every now and then. Very tentatively planning my fish list.

I am also still waiting on my cabnitery to finish the outside. I was promised this soon and will post pictures as soon as they deliver.

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:38 pm

Is this 90 degree weather ever going to end? I need to get forced back inside the house to work on the tank.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Railcar79 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:54 pm

I hear you there, I just want to see my tank again. I havent seen it since Aug 18, and I wont be home again till the 12th
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:53 pm

Just a quick update.

I still don't have a smaller light fixture figured out for the middle opening, still waiting on cabnitery.

Good news is I have my new 110 gallon saltwater mixing/storage container almost plumbed in, and have 4 fish coming in the morning. I will post some pictures tomorrow.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby iced98lx » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:04 pm

looking forward to the pics!
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby wichers » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:14 pm

Sweet looking forward to some new shots.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:09 am

Progress!!

Here is the new 110 gallon mixing tank plumbed directly to sump so all I have to do is open a valve and flip a switch to fill sump after a water change or add saltwater.

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Sump is growing cheato and working well. Next project is to plumb in chiller.

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And here are the new fish. Very healthy and all eating. Ended up with three for now in this first addition. All are about 3-4 inches. Blonde Naso Tang, Red Sea Sailfin Tang, Tomini Tang.

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby mikembe » Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:21 am

Woo hoo! You got some fish in there.
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Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby SoDak » Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:55 am

Looking good Dustin! Where did you pick up that mixing tank?
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:01 am

SoDak wrote:Looking good Dustin! Where did you pick up that mixing tank?


I bought the tank from pallan
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Railcar79 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:22 am

Looking real good. Hope you are a stop on the next tank tour
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby hoover86 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:37 pm

Gorgeous fish. I miss my Tomini. LOVE the sailfins!
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:05 am

I thought the naso was eating but he is spitting a lot back out. It is picking on the rocks quite a bit but not really taking much else in. Tries everything but doesn't really go to town on anything. Seems to be getting skinnier. The sailfin and tomini are much fatter.

Any ideas to help out the naso? I have tried tying the nori to rocks, frozen food, and about three different pellets, dried brine shrimp.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby wichers » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:50 am

TLF purple algae or ocean nutrition prime reef flake. Let me know if you want to give it a try. Will also be trying the New Era Grazing rings soon if you want to add to my order give me a shout.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:12 am

I'm willing to give it a shot. When can I grab some? If he goes for it I'll order some. You got my number?
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Railcar79 » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:24 am

I got some of the marine grazing rings at home. Don't really have grazers to eat them. If you want some I could hook you up
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Dakota Reef » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:44 pm

Hey Dustin, the whole system looks great! Its obvious you've had this build really well planned out.

As for the Naso......they seem to be prone to going on hunger strike when first introduced to the tank....at least compared to other tangs. I'd try several different types of dried algae to see if one works best. Brown seaweed is often listed as one of their main foods in the wild, but that may be more accurate for the regular naso rather than the Indian Ocean blonde version.

You might try cutting the nori into small pieces first and then soaking them in water to soften them and then adding to the tank like flakes. The idea is to give them small manageable size pieces while they acquire a taste. Two Little Fishies sells a version of this in a container. I'm guessing your biggest problem is that the other two tangs won't leave any food in the tank for long.

One thing to watch out for, Naso tangs used to be notorious for coming in with internal parasites, eating fine for a week or two but not gaining any weight until they wasted away. Don't think that's as common anymore especially with the more expensive blonde nasos that usually get collected in the Maldives. If you see any stringy, white poop you may need to treat with Prazi-Pro or something similar. The bad news is the Prazi may make the fish stop eating for a couple of days which isn't so good if your fish has already been on hunger strike.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:02 pm

Good news, naso started eating the TLF purple algae. Pinched belly is dissapearing fast. I got more coming with Matt's order. I don't think I will be trying the rings quite yet but thanks for the offer. I'm going to try and work in some of the green algae sheets after a bit, which I have quite a few to use up. Hopefully they end up eating both.

The sailfin is a pig. I will probably have two different feeding stations. I'll keep an eye open for parasites.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:13 am

I did get a different light fixture over the middle opening. It works great. Basically is the same pendant but an older discontinued smaller size. Now tank itself stays rather cool.

This one

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:26 am

Update...Naso is eating like a champ. Like somebody turned on a switch.

Here are a couple shots of the new light fixture. Fits like a glove. In case anyone was wondering, this is what a 250w radium bulb looks like in the middle vs a 14k ushio 250w on the sides. I have a new 14k ushio that I will put in the middle fixture. But always fun to compare. The blue bulbs look so fake to me.

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby iced98lx » Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:26 pm

Lighting Rig looks great!!! I love how thought out your build is, great work!
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Saltwater Saloon » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:23 pm

looking good
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Bosch » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:20 am

I assume your lights are bolted to a sheet of plywood. Mine are all hanging independently. I wanted to join them all on a rack but worried about the wood getting too hot. How is that working for you?
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:10 am

Bosch wrote:I assume your lights are bolted to a sheet of plywood. Mine are all hanging independently. I wanted to join them all on a rack but worried about the wood getting too hot. How is that working for you?


Lights are working great now. The plywood does not get hot at all. There is a 1/4" gap between fixture itself and the wood. I ran metal halide pendants up against some wood on my old setup and after three years of use there was just a little discoloration of the wood where they touched.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:34 am

Look what happened this past week!!! Been busy with thanksgiving and would have posted earlier. I am very pleased with the quality of work and they turned out as good as I had hoped. Wife loves them (mostly because there isn't a hole in the wall) so all is good.

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby kevine9723 » Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:31 am

Looking good man

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Pallan » Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:30 am

sweet look
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby iced98lx » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:21 am

Very Very Nice!
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Saltwater Saloon » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:19 am

looks awesome very impressive
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:33 pm

Just an update and a request for advice. The three tangs are doing great. I'm not sure if the sailfin or naso is going to be the boss yet, but watching them control the tank together is interesting indeed. The fact that both these fish might be a foot long in the end is scary.

I added three fish from divers den, a red fin fairy wrasse, black cap basslet, and starry blenny. Fortunately all are doing exactly what they are supposed to be.

So my current stocking of 6 fish is as follows

Blonde Naso Tang
Red Sea Sailfin Tang
Tomini Tang
Red Fin Fairy Wrasse
Black Cap Basslet
Starry Blenny

Now, on my list of fish to add is as follows

Powder Blue Tang (I have pretty much crossed this off the list and would rather have some other of the following fish)
2 Cinnamon Clowns
Longnose Hawkfish (do they really eat shrimp?, if so then I am going to cross off the list, shrimp are more important to me)
More Ass. Wrasses
1 or 2 dwarf angels
maybe 1 butterfly
and a large group of ????????(NOT chromis or cardinals)

any suggestions would be welcome. Really struggling here.
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Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby SoDak » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:47 pm

I have always thought a group of Yellowtail Damsels would look cool.

I'm a big fan of Wrasses and would love to see what cool Wrasses you could put in a tank that big. Mike said that one you just got would make me quite jealous. There is a forum on 3reef.com titled "All about reef safe wrasses" Phil pointed out that is a great read and good source if you have any compatibility questions.

My two cents anyway.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:53 pm

SoDak wrote:I have always thought a group of Yellowtail Damsels would look cool.

I'm a big fan of Wrasses and would love to see what cool Wrasses you could put in a tank that big. Mike said that one you just got would make me quite jealous. There is a forum on 3reef.com titled "All about reef safe wrasses" Phil pointed out that is a great read and good source if you have any compatibility questions.


Exactly what I was thinking. I might just throw 10 yellow tail blue damsels in and see what happens. Kind of like stocking African cichlids. More the better. Yellow tails would give me the blue color I am missing. And more wrasses. And I will have the two cinnamon clowns for sure.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Dakota Reef » Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:04 am

- Phil -

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:56 pm

Dakota Reef wrote:http://www.pacificislandaquatics.com/store/home/433-lineatus-fairy-wrasse-trio-wysiwyg-.html :D


Those are nice indeed, but I think my next $700 is going to buy me a mp60
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Dakota Reef » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:21 am

nature boy wrote:
Dakota Reef wrote:http://www.pacificislandaquatics.com/store/home/433-lineatus-fairy-wrasse-trio-wysiwyg-.html :D


Those are nice indeed, but I think my next $700 is going to buy me a mp60


Yeah, I'd just like somebody to spend that much so I can come over and enjoy the those beauties without constantly worrying about how much it cost me if they go surfing.

Pretty sure you'll love the flow of the MP60. They're almost frighteningly powerful......especially intimidating if you've misaligned them. I usually keep the one I have running at about 60-80% power and it still creates more flow than the two MP40s on the other side that are synched together. Mine definitely isn't silent though. I guess I've grown used to the sound because I don't really notice it most of the time. The noise will probably be less noticeable in your setup though since it will be behind the wall (guessing you'd mount it along that RH short wall).
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:51 am

Time for an update. I have not added any more livestock, waiting to find a quarantine tank and get it up and running. From here on out going to quarantine new arrivals. I did however add about 12-15 mostly sps coral frags and they seem to be doing well. Will post a picture after I get glass cleaned up.

Now the bad news is I am having problems with my skimmer again. This replacement pump slowed down after a month or two of use. I had already replaced it once and the same problem persists. To make matters worse, coralvue has "retired" these dc pumps because they obviously fail after a short period of time. So I have sent an email to them again to determine how to handle the situation. After some research I have found that they are coming out with a new and improved dc pump in a month or two. Not sure I want to wait and test this new pump out. Thinking about just asking for a bubble blaster 5000 and making it work. So in the meantime I got a back up skimmer because mine is only running at half. This small skimmer a sca-302 will be used on my quarantine setup, but for now it is helping out my big skimmer.

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Now the good news, got a new toy! I had to sell one of my children but got it none the less. I have to rearrange a couple rocks to make space for the output before I mount it. Will have this on the right side and the two mp40s on the left side.

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Bosch » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:01 am

Not good news on the pump. I almost asked for a bubble blaster when I had to have mine replaced. Could it be a direct fit?

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:15 pm

Bosch wrote:Not good news on the pump. I almost asked for a bubble blaster when I had to have mine replaced. Could it be a direct fit?

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From what I dug up there is an adapter fitting but I think that is all you need. I will ask them when they return my email.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Railcar79 » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:48 pm

a small school of Azure damsels would look real good, possibly some Neon damsels (about the color of a blue hippo tang) , or tracey damsels?

As for the pump, that sucks, DC is the new thing, just going to take time to get the reliability up on those pumps.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:53 pm

New quarantine/frag tank up and running. A 40 breeder with a 29 gallon sump. A nice fit for sure. Only doing a freshwater test now.

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Pallan » Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:02 pm

very nice
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby DIZZER » Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:29 pm

I like it. Maybe I'll have to do something similar with my old 40B.
"Good things happen to those who wait" so I'm gonna continue to kick back, put my feet up and wait. Should I happen to get the urge to do otherwise I'll close my eyes and wait for the feeling to pass. :)
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby mikembe » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:07 pm

Nice work D! You always do it up nice
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby aquaticgeek » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:52 pm

Looks great!


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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Saltwater Saloon » Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:47 pm

Looks good
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby DevilishDukie » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:57 pm

Any updates?


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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Sun May 11, 2014 11:03 pm

Sorry, I did not fall off that face of the earth. I have been extremely busy lately settling into a new job. The tank is doing well, need to get it cleaned up take some new pictures. Also need to add some new livestock soon.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:31 pm

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