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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Tangdiver » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:16 am

no need to seal. Will not mold due to saltwater inhibits it....if fresh then drywall and outdoor house paint and such. If salt....skip it. I did and had no issues at home, the cove and clients.

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Bosch » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:25 pm

Another vote for not needing to seal. My stand has had salt and then fresh tanks on it. Looks new 5 years later. I'd only worry about sealing anything that sees constant moisture or splashing. Or if looks are important to you...
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:36 pm

Thanks guys, decided not to seal it.

I have all day Friday and Saturday and part of Sunday to work on my new tank. I have two layers of plywood on the stand and am going to pick up my foam tomorrow.

So, Friday I am going to do a bunch of prep work and move the stand into place. Saturday morning I am planning on placing the tank on the stand. If anyone is free to lend a hand, that would be awesome. Probably should have myself and three others. My son will be around but he is only 5.

Maybe 10:00 would be a good time, but I'm flexible.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby THills » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:52 pm

10:00-Noonish would work for me.

Maybe putting your son IN the tank while it's moved would be the safest place for him ;)
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:57 pm

THills wrote:10:00-Noonish would work for me.

Maybe putting your son IN the tank while it's moved would be the safest place for him ;)



That is exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for volunteering.

All we need is 2-3 more people that can lift and hold.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Pallan » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:24 pm

I work til 3 if not moved by then give me a call and I can help after I get off
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Saltwater Saloon » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:03 am

would be happy to help if its in the 10 oclock range
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby black hills tj » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:57 am

I can do 10 as well.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:25 am

Sounds like 10:00 is the designated time. See you guys then. Does anyone need directions?
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby black hills tj » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:39 am

I'll need an address at least. Directions are a bonus.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby THills » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:18 am

nature boy wrote:Sounds like 10:00 is the designated time. See you guys then. Does anyone need directions?


I think I can find it again so 10 it is.

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:14 pm

Ok guys, I have decided to go freshwater. How many neon tetras can I fit in this 270?
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Postby lil-reefer991 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:41 pm

Shut up. Ill drive over there and slap you
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:45 pm

I figured out how to maintain the back of my tank. Here it is.

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I hope he measured right

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ready for you guys.

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Pallan » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:08 pm

looks good
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Saltwater Saloon » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:41 pm

looks great I have to work till 10:30 i found out today if you still need help message me
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Bosch » Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:32 pm

Nice work. Looks clean, square, and flush.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:33 pm

We got it moved. Thanks again for the help.

Sorry black hills tj. I didn't get an address to you. Missed that post.

I'll post some pictures later today.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:19 pm

Here is the tank in place. Not sure what to work on next. Lots to do. Probably focus on plumbing and the sump.


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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Bosch » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:30 am

Nice!
Looks like you'll beat me to filling it.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby THills » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:45 am

Has your son staked out a space under it for a fort yet? :lol:
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Postby SoDak » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:18 am

Looks good Dustin. Should finish out nicely with the cabinetry you have in mind too
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Bosch » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:39 pm

When is the target fill date. Or test fill.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Korrine » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:20 pm

Looks good! Also looks like you have a good helper.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:38 am

It has been a while since the last update. I have not done anything. My father passed away a couple weeks ago unexpectedly at age 61. Trying to get busy again, will get back on the horse soon.
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Postby DevilishDukie » Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:28 pm

Sorry to hear about your father. My condolences to you and your family.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby THills » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:03 pm

Sorry about your father. :(

How is your son taking losing his grandpa?
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Postby Saltwater Saloon » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:42 pm

sorry to hear about your father
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Bosch » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:05 pm

I hope you and family are doing well. My condolences. Stay strong.

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Postby SoDak » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:13 pm

Sorry to hear that Dustin. My condolences as well.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby junior26 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:24 am

sorry to hear dustin hope your doing ok
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:38 pm

Thanks for your thoughts everyone.

Starting the build back up now. I did finish my electrical work last night. All together I installed a total of 7 GFI outlets on 2 independent dedicated aquarium circuits, 1 additional shared utility room circuit, and two basic light fixtures in the tank/sump area.

Now on to plumbing. Picked up most of my plumbing today, except for missing loc line parts and a couple of those hard to get plastic gate valves.

I have decided to get an additional 100 pounds of live rock. I am leaning toward the BRS reef saver rock. I have heard mixed reviews on this rock. Any thoughts? It is pretty close in appearance to my live rock I already have. I am pretty sure I have the Fiji totoka rock but not 100% sure.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Bosch » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:55 pm

Do you prefer that over the Pukani? I'll bet you could get more "volume" for your money with Pukani. Haven't tried the reefsaver rock, so can't comment on that.
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Postby hoover86 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:26 pm

People that I've talked to who have the reef saver love it. I've watched all those BRS videos about their rock a million times and they all seem to have their selling points. I personally plan on reef saver for my build.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:26 pm

I only prefer the reef saver rock because I think it looks more like that rock that I already have and it is cheaper. But then if it weighs more, in the end would maybe be a wash cost wise.

I have heard that it is a cleaner rock because there isn't really any dead sea life on it. So that would be a plus.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby cdness » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:51 am

I have the reef saver and pukani in my tank and love it. To be honest with you the reef saver rock is very light. It is very porous and if you bust it apart it is porous inside the rock as well. Pukani on the other hand is porous on the outside but very dense on the inside of the branches. Weight wise, even though the pukani has more surface area and holes, they weigh about the same for the amount of space taken up in the tank.

I wouldn't second guess on purchasing reef saver rock.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Bosch » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:45 pm

I will say the cleaning was a hastle. That's a big plus for the reefsaver.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Pallan » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:12 pm

Sorry to hear about you dad dustin. I haven't been reading posts so haven't kept up lately. As always let me know if you need anything. I'm glad to see the build continued
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:59 pm

Here are a couple of updates. I got to work on the tank last weekend a little.

First did the catwalk behind the tank which is a foot wide, which I have been standing on already and has been making things easier.

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Then it was on to plumbing

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Got my lighting figured out and have some new fixtures to install as well. Probably going to run the 250 watt to start, might go to 400 at some point.

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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Bosch » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:31 pm

Looking good. I had the same plans as you. Will be putting in a catwalk similar to yours. Steps up to it maybe. It's gonna look like I am stealing your ideas.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:24 pm

Bosch wrote:Looking good. I had the same plans as you. Will be putting in a catwalk similar to yours. Steps up to it maybe. It's gonna look like I am stealing your ideas.


Actually, I think I have to give the credit to Phil for the catwalk idea. I think he suggested it.

I met with a guy this morning about making custom cabnitery doors and finishing the living room side. They will make raised panel doors, trim, stain, and such. Wood will be birch. I will most likely do the installation of these components. Hopefully the quote comes back reasonable. But probaly not.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:45 pm

The woodworking quote as expected was pretty steep. I might be able to trade out some landscaping work with different guy. I think I will pursue that for the time being.

I was going to work outside today but got rained out so went down to the basement to work on the tank. This !@#$%^ spring is killing me, but go to work on the build so can't complain too much.

Got my plumbing done, finally filling the tank and sump now for a freshwater trial run. So far no leaks in the overflow box or drain pipes. Sump is full. Tank is a third full. I will fire up the return pumps tomorrow and post the pictures.

Before I started filling, I finally got the wife into the tank for the mermaid shot!!! That pic is coming soon as well.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby SoDak » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:54 pm

Give Scott at East River Company a call on the wood work. He does great work at more than reasonable prices. If you can imagine it, he can create it.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:48 pm

All right here are some pictures. First of course is the mermaid shot. When you get a tank this big you have to just have to do this picture. And since I was filling it up with water for a test, had to talk her into it. A little cheesy but I am only doing this once.

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Some other critters I found in the tank. Try telling a 2 year old how to not scratch the acrylic!
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Somehow I ended up in there. Thanks to my eldest daughter for taking the picture.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Dakota Reef » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:03 am

Priceless pics!! Looks like you're going to have plenty of help.

The first three frags in your new tank look pretty good! :D
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby DIZZER » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:31 am

Woot! Water! It all starts out looking so crisp and clean...
"Good things happen to those who wait" so I'm gonna continue to kick back, put my feet up and wait. Should I happen to get the urge to do otherwise I'll close my eyes and wait for the feeling to pass. :)
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby nature boy » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:32 am

I did a full test with tap water. No leaks! My two return pump system works great. Herbie works great. I am not happy with my plumbing in my overflow box. I need to make some adjustments there, but I didn't glue anything so that will be easy. I was surprised when shutting down the pumps how much a 6'x3' area will drain and add to the sump. I have the capacity but don't have a ton of extra room for add on tanks in the future.

I also found out that my the water level in the tank runs only about 1/2 inch below the tank top with the pumps wide open. I am pretty happy with this becuase there is less tank to hide with woodwork.

So now it is on to rock and sand. I decided to get the reef saver rock. Not sure on sand though. It will be an inch or less just for looks which comes to about 120 lbs. I would like a coarser sand becuase it will be a sps dominant reef. Any suggestions? Marco rocks has cheap coarse sand. They also have pretty much the same dry rock. I could just order eveything from them. Thoughts?
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Bosch » Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:12 am

I spent a lot of time looking for sand. I went with the reef special grade by carib sea from Dr fosters and Smith. 120 pounds with free shipping is hard to beat. Comes out to about an inch. I wanted to try some tropic Eden flakes but could not find any available. No experience with Marco sand, but I did consider it.
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby Tangdiver » Wed May 01, 2013 9:22 pm

So cool to see this dustin!
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Re: Nature Boy's 270 Gallon Reef

Postby lil-reefer991 » Thu May 02, 2013 6:42 am

I bought my rocks from them. I actually called him and he asked me questions about the tank and what size rock I would like shipped. Really nice guy and he sends you nice rock.


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