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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:26 pm

Railcar79 wrote:So you around this weekend?


I'm in town but not home / available lol
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby Railcar79 » Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:28 pm

Lol. Just need to figure when we can get together. Got some pocci for ya, and wondering if you got any of the jedi
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:25 pm

Railcar79 wrote:Lol. Just need to figure when we can get together. Got some pocci for ya, and wondering if you got any of the jedi


Jedi didn't make the move very well it's attempting to recover, I'm going to frag a couple chunks and let it acclimate to the new tank a bit here
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby Railcar79 » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:25 pm

No problem
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:19 pm

Everything else is coming around, I suspect it will too one of these next days.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby cheezybuda » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:21 pm

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iced98lx wrote:Update: I've got the stenner pump hooked up in a proof of concept mode, and have changed about 50 gallons of water with it:

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To change water all I do is ensure there is properly mixed salt water in the bin, and flip the switch on the pump, come back later and turn it off.

So far there has been zero salinity drift, seems everything is working properly and I'm getting ready to move it to it's final home.

In the end, both it and the mixing pump will be on relays and a water change initiated by the controller will do the following:

  • Turn on the mixing pump
  • wait 30 minutes
  • turn on water change pump
  • Wait # of min to complete desired water change (doing about 6gph right now)
  • turn off both pumps

This requires there is proper salt water in the bin, and that the mixing station valves are turned properly so I'm not adding fresh to the salt bin or blocking re-circulation, but having things in a 'normal' state is easy enough. Like my ATO I can temporarily disable it via software should the need arise to not have it run one or multiple days.

I have the dual headed stenner as well. I did a trial with a pump loop setup with 2 containers of water. Mine did have a small difference in volume dispacement, comparatively. Maybe 200 ml per 30 minutes. I'm intrigued to hear how it works in the long run.

So do you still use yours? I didn't see any measurable difference thru 3 cups of water during testing but long term will be more telling


By the time I got mine tested, I had my 120 down already. All I have down there now is a frag tank. I only do monthly WC on it. Once I get a big tank up, I will probably use it for for that.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:06 am

Yea I'm certainly enjoying mine so far. Seems to really be a great solution to getting water changed without messing with heating the change water, busting out buckets and hoses etc.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby cheezybuda » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:33 pm

Do you still do a periodic siphoning for your sand bed and detritus?
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:34 am

cheezybuda wrote:Do you still do a periodic siphoning for your sand bed and detritus?


Nope, never did touch my sand bed, I let snails and sand sifter gobies handle that..
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby Korrine » Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:51 pm

Glad to see it's up and running, Chris! Exciting!
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:00 am

Korrine wrote:Glad to see it's up and running, Chris! Exciting!


Thanks Korrine!

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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:39 pm

Updated FTS:

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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby Railcar79 » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:28 pm

Is that jedi ready for frags?

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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:34 pm

Nearly. Broke a 2 inch by 4 inch piece off when I glued it down in its final home. Lost it into the rocks though :(

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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:05 am

Added two more DI stages to my RO/DI setup for maximum dwell time. Doing a booster pump additional membrane and some new pre-filters next to make sure things are up to snuff. Also likely adding a turf scrubber from turbo.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:09 am

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Two B&W Clowns
Blue spot watchman goby
Red Fire Shrimp
Blue Tux Urchin
Red Striped Hogfish
Lubbock's Fairy Wrasse
carberryi anthias
lyretail anthias
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:33 pm

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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:07 pm

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This guy has some serious food available.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:00 pm

well after a lengthy acclimation all the anthias are in the tank!

It went better than I could have hoped, the new ones and the old ones found each other in pretty short order, and began sharing the cave the old ones had used.

Best part was that I immediately fed LRS (which both eat well) and watched as the male shooed away the hogfish! The hogfish typically holds the two anthias in the cave, so this was a great sight. After some posturing and a few passes by the hogfish the Anthias are not darting for the cave as the hogfish approaches like the two originals used to: strenth in numbers indeed!!

Here is a video of them eating:

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Very happy right now!

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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby Railcar79 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:59 am

Lrs is great stuff.

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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:09 pm

having an issue where the SPS is starting to receed off tips of certain corals, doing a battery of tests today but I'm guessing it's ALK swings.

As I test:

Nitrate: 1 or less PPM
ALK: 11.8 dKH
Ca: 430

Of course I'm not dosing anything, so may have to look at what my salt water is mixing up at..
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:49 pm

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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Fri Nov 13, 2015 5:52 pm

I have 70 gallons of water made from Reef Crystals in the bin, so I went ahead and checked ALK of that and it's over 14.

whuuuuuuttt.

the burning of the tips makes more sense now, since it happened right after that big 20% change with really high ALK water, but dang. Evaluating next steps I guess.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby kevine9723 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:58 am

In my 40b I been shooting for 10% a month so I been doing one gallon a week instead of 4 gallons at a time
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:57 am

kevine9723 wrote:In my 40b I been shooting for 10% a month so I been doing one gallon a week instead of 4 gallons at a time


this tank gets 3-7 gallons a day, depending on the program I have selected, right now I'm down to 3, though I think I'm going to shut off the AWC and let the ALK drop, measured at between 12.9 and 13.2 this morning.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby kevine9723 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:12 pm

Yeah might not hurt and could always see what red sea salt would mix up at
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:27 pm

Measured at 12.0 this morning. Emptied all but 10 gallons from my mixing bin, scrubbed it out and am now filling with fresh water to start over with regular IO to see if I can get a better base set of parameters.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby acexotix » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:02 pm

What are you shooting for? I use the red sea pro salt and mix consistently at 10.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:26 am

acexotix wrote:What are you shooting for? I use the red sea pro salt and mix consistently at 10.


10 would be fine, mixing the same every time is what I care about since I change so much water.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:35 pm

Replaced the DC-12000 with a DCT-12000 due to some flakyness, I'll take a look at it later. Changing the pump made it clear I need to change my sump setup. As such I'll be working over the next few days to move the sump out from under the tank, to the side on a stand. Having direct over head access to the sump will be a life saver for upkeep of items and will let me run my skimmer in sump vs externally where it is now. Will require some mild re-work of the drains and a decent re-work of the return, which I don't love anyway.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:24 pm

measured ALK/Ca today after a few days of IO water changes:

ALK: 9.2 kKH 3.2Meq/L

Ca: 430ppm

much happier.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby acexotix » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:47 pm

How do You change all of that while it's running
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:15 pm

acexotix wrote:How do You change all of that while it's running


The tank will be sumpless for a few hours while I drain the sump, move it, get the return and drain plumbing hooked up and the sump filled back up. I'll just dump a heater in the DT and leave the power heads running.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:14 pm

progress on the sump stand:

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Using leftover wood, so it's not perfect but it's better than I thought it would be based on the lumber I had on hand.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby black hills tj » Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:24 pm

Nice cat.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:27 pm

black hills tj wrote:Nice cat.


you know the power of her snuggles.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby black hills tj » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:36 pm

Snuggles and pizza...mmm.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:10 pm

This should help explain the vision a little more:

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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby black hills tj » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:15 pm

I like where this is going. Ought to make modifications and maintenance easier.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:13 pm

black hills tj wrote:I like where this is going. Ought to make modifications and maintenance easier.



That is the goal, get it out from under the tank and let me use the sump space vs not having any access to it. Plus when I'm ready I can connect up some additional systems (Frag/Fuge) to the left of the sump.


After I got the sump put in place and test fit it was time to add the fresh 20 amp circuit I've been meaning to (I have had an open spot in my fuse box for it for a while):

A new box:
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And wired:

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Got my drains long enough:

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Now I'm cleaning / gluing and working on the return pump.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:12 am

and we have (temporary) flow!
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The return is temp until I find a better solution, I needed to have about 10 more gallons of salt water on hand to really make it go seamlessly, but it's fine this way until morning.

It's been a long day of moving stuff, but I can say I'm MUCH happier with the layout now and feel I've got a much better more usable sump. I'm already considering what to do with all the space in that sump!!
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby black hills tj » Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:36 pm

Nice work, Chris. I'll have to come check it out in person when I get home.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:58 pm

Some progress tonight, got the controller hooked up so heat/lights/ato working again. Sadly turning the lights on made it clear I mis-welded something in the return line in my haste as it was microbubble city.

Kind of weird to see the Lubbocks Wrasse darting around like he didn't just spend over a week in the sump hanging out. Certainly didn't lose his appetite.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:41 pm

Made some more progress, getting things situated a bit:

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This little piggy was at the front glass as soon as the lights came up asking to be fed:

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Figures!
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby Railcar79 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:20 am

That jedi doing good?

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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:13 am

Railcar79 wrote:That jedi doing good?

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I think it's under the algae somewhere...

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Got the skimmer back online finally, it's been down a while so that will hopefully help things as well. Sit and wait time.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby Railcar79 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:46 pm

Man I was hoping to get a piece. I do have some Hydnaphora and some Pocci

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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:24 pm

as soon as there is something to break off, hoping things go back to normal growth now that my ALK is down/stable. it's got a little bigger area to table out on too.
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

Postby iced98lx » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:27 pm

Added a Christmas Wrasse and a Yellow Wrasse:

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Both appear to be eating LRS but only the Christmas appears to be eating pellets. The christmas is likely about 2 to 2.25 inches with the yellow barely pushing 1.5- very small.

Some initial aggression from the Lubbocks Wrasse but every one is happy now.

Fish list currently sitting at:

2x B&W Clownfish
Redstriped Hogfish
Blue Spotted Watchman Goby
3x Female Lyretail Anthias
1x Male Lyretail Anthias
2x Female Carberri Anthias
1x Female Ignitus Anthias
Copperband Butterfly
Lubbock's Fairy Wrasse
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Re: Chris' 180 Gallon In Wall Build

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