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The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:17 pm

Just got home from the honeymoon, mom was feeding the fish/checking tank while I was gone. ATO worked great until filter floss clogged and the solution I thought I had to prevent back siphon failed. Luckily the siphon into the ATO container just pulled enough to fill 3/4 of the ATO tank until the water was low enough in the back to run the pump dry. Heater reset itself somehow so wasn't heating, etc. Power cycled things over the phone got the tank filled back up (Mom learned how to read salinity!) and she let it go. Was right on temp wise when I got back but stunk like death. Over the three weeks leading up to the wedding my husbandry on the was.... lacking. I hadnt' done a water change, my phosphates and nitrates crept up and I started growing some green hair algae (weird for us) along with the cyano I'm battling. When I came home and smelt the tank, I thought for sure I'd light it up to see a bunch of murky water and dead coral/fish. Surprisingly the algae had taken off but the coral looked fine. I've now seen 2/3 of the fish so I think we'll get through this with no fish causalities. I did an 80% water change tonight, and am getting another 80% change ready for tomorrow, just to get things back in line.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby cdness » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:02 pm

Ouch! Congrats on the wedding and honeymoon, but sorry to hear about the issues with the tank.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby iced98lx » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:21 pm

Looking ok today. Another 80% tomorrow. The smell was a bunch of pellet food that got spilled, damp, and left. YUCK. Algae already mostly gone but manual cleanup is a bummer. A couple LPS looking rough. Will do full test suite tmmrw.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby black hills tj » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:26 pm

Glad to hear you are doing alright, Chris!
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby iced98lx » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:17 am

Oh man, to add insult to injury, apparently at night with it getting chilly in the office (62->66) and the powerhead turning off the current heater couldn't handle the heating duties (or is dying, either way really) so I've seen swings from 77/78 -> 74 and back. Candy cane is the only coral that appears to be rather upset. Hopefully a few days of stability will get things looking proper again.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby Korrine » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:46 am

Man, totally not what you wanted to come home to. Good thing it's looking up and the tank wasn't the stinky stuff.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby iced98lx » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:11 am

did a 80% water change last night, maybe even 90% it was a big one. This morning the LPS are looking a little peeved, the SPS are looking fine, and the GHA is continuing to brown out. I'm off to VEGAS BABY for a few days so the wife will be in charge. HOpefully the comeback continues.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby Tangdiver » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:35 am

Good luck at home and in Vegas
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby Korrine » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:04 pm

Fingers are crossed for you
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby iced98lx » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:19 am

Tested Nitrate, Phosphate yesterday. Both tested at undetectable. I suspect I scared the cripes out of the LPS with my recent cranking up of lights. I also suspect my GHA problem is taking care of any measurable phosphates in the tank. Fed the LPS today manually and the torch is coming out better today and scratched the high noon blast of 2 hours of super intense light.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby iced98lx » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:17 pm

Shortened Light period, removed "High Noon" blast of light, bumped temps to 79.5->80.25 vs 78.25->78.75

SPS are all looking the best they have, so I hate to do much.

Water change tonight, LPS are still not happy.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby iced98lx » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:27 pm

finally seeing some better extension on frogspawn, torch and hammer. Candycane looking rough.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby iced98lx » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:41 pm

oh and another 10 gallon water change tonight. GHA is finally dying off as the bad water is cycled out.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby iced98lx » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:18 pm

well, things are coming around, water changes of course helped. Started vinegar dosing today, as without a skimmer it can be tough to keep things how I want them without huge water changes frequently.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby black hills tj » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:29 pm

Glad to hear that, Chris.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby shifty51008 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:41 pm

Sounds like a good plan for recovery, the vodka dosing helps alot but will only work if you have both nitrates and phosphates.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby iced98lx » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:38 pm

Well, after another week of me being gone, the tank was in ROUGH shape. Add to it that my two new clowns were added right before I left and it was trouble in the making. Luckily my ATO worked great while I was gone, as did the controller. I came home to a dirty Cyano infested tank with a lot of GHA. The wife and I decided it was time for a big cleaning, obviously. I mixed up 15 gallons of fresh salt and went to work on the cyano and GHA. Luckily with all the water changes the GHA was in the process of melting away so most of it got sucked up easily. Cyano sucks but it can usually be cleaned up pretty easy at least. After much cleaning and some fresh water we're looking much better. What bothers me most is that my LPS are still unhappy despite my SPS going nuts.

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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby DIZZER » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:46 pm

I wonder if the lighting isn't a little too intense where they are. Do you know what your par is at your sandbed? Maybe try tucking them somewhere under partial light.
"Good things happen to those who wait" so I'm gonna continue to kick back, put my feet up and wait. Should I happen to get the urge to do otherwise I'll close my eyes and wait for the feeling to pass. :)
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby iced98lx » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:22 am

DIZZER wrote:I wonder if the lighting isn't a little too intense where they are. Do you know what your par is at your sandbed? Maybe try tucking them somewhere under partial light.


I'm thinking it's a possibility. I"m going to give them a day without light and see where it takes us.
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Re: Vacation Havoc

Postby iced98lx » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:26 am

not much change after a day of no light but I'm going to back down the lights today, and turn out the 420nm channel completely. Cutting the 420 is something I"ve thought about doing for a while to help with algae growth so opportunity to try it out.

What I don't like is all this fiddling when my SPS are looking the best they've ever looked.. *sigh* they've all colored up nice and everything, now I go turn down the lights on them lol
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:50 pm

Well guess this might as well become the member tank thread about the cube.

oh hey, look, all 5 fishies!

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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:54 am

Somewhere among the GHA and Cyano battle, there is some SPS that is surviving.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:02 pm

All the work apparently is making someone happy: it appears I may someday have some A. Ocellaris var (B&W) fry to raise. My clowns are now cleaning the back of my frag rack which has been empty with vigor. I suspect based on size (2 inches and 1.5 inches) that they're not mature and ready to breed, but they sure are going through the motions. They were paired together prior to me getting them and are tank bred from ORA. They are both pretty much perfect visual examples, so the offspring could be fairly good I would imagine.

Poor firefish didn't realize that was "Their Turf" and got quite the shooing away by the female when it entered their domain.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby black hills tj » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:52 pm

Dibs. :D
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:26 pm

black hills tj wrote:Dibs. :D


LoL the female is letting the little guy know she expects him not to stray far from her right now, its sort of funny to watch. If he gets distracted and isnt right with her she swims over and gives him the business, then hes back to bring her shadow for an hour or so..
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby black hills tj » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:31 pm

iced98lx wrote:
black hills tj wrote:Dibs. :D


LoL the female is letting the little guy know she expects him not to stray far from her right now, its sort of funny to watch. If he gets distracted and isnt right with her she swims over and gives him the business, then hes back to bring her shadow for an hour or so..


Pretty fun to watch. I'll trim down the video I took of mine actually spawning and post it soon.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:53 pm

got a wild hair and hooked up the TLF 150 reactor with some BRS GFO in it today. got it running, everything looking fine, and the hose popped off the pump I was using to feed it. Apparently I had choked the pump back too much and it didn't like it!! Got it all back together and the pump is making all sorts of noise, so have to get a different pump I guess.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:59 am

well, that's all she wrote here:

Woke up came downstairs and no lights on. Knew that was wrong. Something malfunctioned and before I had a chance to get my heater circuit switched (it is in normal on, switch to off- fine for heaters with controllers, terrible for heaters without) the heater got left in the on position. 101 degrees this morning.

Just flushed first round of fish, looks like the modest set of coral I was preparing for the big tank won't be making it into the big tank. So far the deaths are both firefish, my green birdsnest colony, pink birdsnest, red birdsnest, sour apple birdsnest, frogspawn.

The others still look alive, and I've seen the clowns and yellow watchman goby though not sure how any could pull through. Temp is at 93 and falling- I did a partial water change. Starfish are dead and on the sand, snails etc. the annoying crab appears to be hanging on.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:27 am

Yellow watchman and clowns look to be pulling through somehow. Temp is down below 85 now. Lost all coral but a few hardy SPS pieces maybe
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby Raggamuffin » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:34 am

whoah... that is insane. Sorry man :(
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:37 am

Raggamuffin wrote:whoah... that is insane. Sorry man :(



my own stupid fault. I knew I needed to reverse the logic on the heater when I switched from a traditional heater to a heating tube with no controller in it.

Sometimes you do stupid things and think they'll work- this time I got bit. The controller was running for 34 days without a reboot or issue, till this happened. Better the little tank vs the big tank (though it would take a while to over heat the bigger water volume)

Anyway, down to the pink mille, and maybe a bird of paradise that might make it coral wise.

fish wise, I lost my purple firefish pair, but the clowns hung on and so did the Yellow Goby.

Insane to imagine the water being 101 for a while and those guys are still kicking.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:45 am

just measured the frags I lost, slightly more angry with myself now that I realize my green birdsnest was 6 inches across and over 6 high. Dang.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby Korrine » Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:29 pm

Wow that's nuts. Sorry about the losses. Got your pm and it wouldn't let me send so I texted you.

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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby SoDak » Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:44 pm

Sorry to hear about the misfortunes. I can make a couple cuts when I get home to help you restart. I have green, sour apple, and hyacinth birdsnests that are big enough to cut into. Let me know when you are ready.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby wichers » Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:16 pm

Oh Mann talk about a stab in the chest!
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby DIZZER » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:31 pm

Sorry to hear. Have to say my heart skipped a beat when you said you had to flush some fish. Thought for sure the clowns had kicked the bucket. Glad to hear that they seem Ok.
"Good things happen to those who wait" so I'm gonna continue to kick back, put my feet up and wait. Should I happen to get the urge to do otherwise I'll close my eyes and wait for the feeling to pass. :)
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby nature boy » Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:42 am

Sorry to hear about the loss. Good news that some things are surviving.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:02 am

Well, this tank is officially a fowlr as of this morning. Pink mille was holding its color until this morning, no longer.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby Railcar79 » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:01 am

Painful read. At least you caught the problems now and didn't cook the big tank
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:29 am

Guess I'll take advantage of the tank being basically empty and rescape, add some rock that will go in the big tank.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby Railcar79 » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:34 am

Did the heat cook off some of your GHA?
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:41 pm

Railcar79 wrote:Did the heat cook off some of your GHA?



not likely. I have very little GHA left, frankly with the GFO going.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:58 am

well, when it rains....


Pump went out on the GFO, figures it happens about now.


here is the only coral I left in the tank, the Pink Millie that still had skin left on it (none of the others did) I think it has a 10% chance of actually making it.

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you can see there is some skin falling off in the middle but the others are actually starting to show some mild PE and color..
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby Railcar79 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:08 pm

It just makes it easier to stock the big tank.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:03 pm

big 14 gallon water change tonight. see how things are looking in a week or two, I have high hopes lol
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:06 am

mounted the mille on a frag plug, added rock and rescaped a bit. Also just turned GFO back on.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:15 am

Aslo, this is what survived out of the tank crash coral wise:

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Soon it will be being sold all over as "the toughest mille you can buy" - I think I'll call it hundred-degree-mille and make a fortune :lol: :roll:

Going to have to cut it up I think to get rid of the dead parts but it is making a heckuva recovery for being in 102 degree water.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:45 pm

Been a rough recovery since the overheat. The mille is doing great, regrowing over it's dead areas. The clowns are happy little pigs of course. I rescaped and added some rock but just can't shake p04 levels. I added a TLF150 reactor with some GFO but am basically running out of room in the back of the tank for pumps and sensors and stuff. Since this is a test bed for the controller first and foremost I took the GFO off, and bought a skimmer for chamber 1 to try to help the situation. I am traveling a TON for work right now (yuck) so tank is getting big water changes every 2 weeks and heavier than normal feedings once daily. I added a few snails since most had magically disappeared during the overheat, and between those and the skimmer I'm hopping to perk this tank back up a bit.
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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby iced98lx » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:23 pm

Skimmer in, breaking in meow.

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Re: The Test Bed: 29 Gallon BioCube

Postby mike » Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:53 pm

Did ya mod it? Can't tell cuz you put it in backwards lol.
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