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Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby black hills tj » Wed May 29, 2013 2:50 pm

Has anyone here setup a tank with a Hamburger Matten Filter, or looked into it at all? Its an idea I found on Planted Tank. Its a super simple and highly efficient filter method with seriously minimal maintenance. You basically use a large piece of foam and a powerhead or air pump to create a giant sponge filter.



http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showt ... p?t=145084

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showt ... hp?t=23611
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby black hills tj » Fri May 31, 2013 2:02 am

Did I go over everyone's head with this, or is noone interested?
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby kevine9723 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:31 am

I think it would be a Good afternoon DIY project I may try this in my 20

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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby black hills tj » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:46 am

I actually picked up a 22"x22"x1" sheet of foam at the fabric store for 6 bucks the other day. I have oodles of air pumps laying around. Just have to throw it together now. I also have a couple powerheads I could use.
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby mrwillster » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:56 am

I've tried something like this before.... I think. I just basically put in airstone in a kitchen sponge (never used of course). Had it in a shrimp tank and it did alright
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby joshberg18 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:37 pm

This will be really good for your shrimp tanks mike , their is a guy I follow on YouTube that breeds shrimp and he pretty much only uses sponge filters for his tanks , I've seen him have quite a lot of success with blue tigers and crystal reds


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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby black hills tj » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:53 pm

joshberg18 wrote:This will be really good for your shrimp tanks mike , their is a guy I follow on YouTube that breeds shrimp and he pretty much only uses sponge filters for his tanks , I've seen him have quite a lot of success with blue tigers and crystal reds


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I only use sponges in my shrimp tanks, but this is on a bit bigger scale. Picked up some foam for this, and it'll double as a filter/tank divider so I don't have 5 10 gallon tanks setup anymore.
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby shifty51008 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:00 am

I wonder how much of a turnover you get with a setup like that.
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby black hills tj » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:09 am

shifty51008 wrote:I wonder how much of a turnover you get with a setup like that.


With an HMF? However much you want. If you want little movement...air pump. Little more movement...bigger air pump. Good movement...powerhead. A lot of movement...bigger powerhead. :)
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby shifty51008 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:29 am

Ok that i understand lol. I was just going by his video, and it just didnt seem like mucg of a turnover to be real effective. But then again i always seem to over do things, thats why my small 75 gal tank has a 150 gal sump/fuge lol
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby black hills tj » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:30 am

You are simply using your pump or air uplift tube to move water from one side to the other. Effectively pulling water back through the sponge to keep the water level equal on each side.
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby jolson » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:22 pm

black hills tj wrote:I actually picked up a 22"x22"x1" sheet of foam at the fabric store for 6 bucks the other day. I have oodles of air pumps laying around. Just have to throw it together now. I also have a couple powerheads I could use.

where did you et the foam my understanding is that the foam has to be a very specific kind and from what Im looking into its pretty expensive, many breeders use the system due to its ease of maintenance and efficiency
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby black hills tj » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:58 pm

I picked it up fron hancock fabrics. it just furniture foam. it is soy based so if iy breaks down...itll release nutrients and a little ammonia in my tabk. the pores are extrenely tiny which works for my shrimp. I figurr if it breaks down and releases ammonia...the filter will handle it just fine, especially with the low bioload of shrinp.
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby mrwillster » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:08 am

Well dang it. You've peeked my interest with this and the banded shrimp. Looks like ill be setting up a ten like this when I return...
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby TyroneG » Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:45 am

You can get the sponge and jetlifts from Swiss Tropicals out in Rochester. The owner does ship if anyone is interested.
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby black hills tj » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:51 pm

So I used the 1" craft foam type product that I got to create 4 sections in a 40B. The 1" didn't work well for this application. It wasn't stiff enough. Two of the dividers somewhat stayed in place after filling the tank, while the third divider ended up floating to the surface overnight. Live and learn. I was trying to find a cheaper product to use, but will probably end up going through swiss tropicals or angels plus when Im feeling ambitious enough to set this up the right way. Someone had to be the guinea pig!
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby angelguy » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:48 pm

Angels plus have 4" block foam filters that work great. they slso discussed some fiam is not healthy. i use their small pores for baby angels and larger porosity for older oness
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby jolson » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:47 am

have you done anything with this Im still interested is seeing how it works
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby aquaticgeek » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:30 am

I am pretty sure all this guys tanks are done this way
http://youtu.be/P6HHGRX2yv0


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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby jolson » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:16 am

anything happening here Im thinking that my new set up might use this in a lot of my new tanks
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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby aquaticgeek » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:27 pm

I'm going so much towards planted no filters it's not funny. Everytime I do one I'm impressed with results and clean look of no tubes just some airline tubing which is easily hid with plants, rock, or wood. Google walstead method or you tube it. But I believe the matten filter also works good it's essentially the same as putting a sponge on a power head which is all that filters my bow front. The only thing with all these sponges is ringing them out every couple weeks but done into waste water change water makes instant plant fertilizer


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Re: Hamburger Matten Filter

Postby jolson » Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:15 pm

Ive got her book its terrific I was actually thinking of putting some of the filters on my planted tanks just as and experiment
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